We're celebrating the six-year anniversary of Taylor Swift's Red album and this is really when she started to show some of her pop flair and this next song I talked to Taylor about it's called Treacherous and she said it was kind of just looking into the dangerous side of things. Treacherous is a song that I wrote with Dan Wilson and I brought in this idea because I wanted to explore the idea that something could be dangerous and enticing at the same time you know but the positive side of that like I but I believe this can work you know it's um it's got this big bridge at the end of it that kind of sounds like a second chorus it's got all these these vocals in the background and it says nothing safe is worth the drive and to me that that says so much about this album because I really do feel that even if something really hurt you if it made you feel something it was worth it.